Dec 10, 2005

Qaeda-Iraq Link U.S. Cited Is Tied to Coercion Claim - New York Times

And this is probably why Cheney is so adamant about wanting to be able to use torture. He knows the war is based on falsehoods, with many of them extracted under torture. Now that it's falling apart, the only way he can obtain more "confessions" ,get more diabolical plans that will (hopefully) make him look like he was right to go to war, is by torturing more of these "plots" out of more people. I'm reminded of how the Church tortured confessions out of people often "particular people who held property that a local Duke or cleric wanted. They would torture until they got the right confession neccessary to expropriate the property they needed but couldn't get through any other legal means. And now it's the same old story of rulers exercising power to get what they want. And it most certainly is not the reasons that the America and it's military have sworn to fight for. Indeed it is the complete opposite. To join this army....under this man....is to betray America. And any military man who knows this --- who knows Bush lied and yet still signs up for this war, well.....they have no respect, and they should not be accorded any whatsoever. None. Qaeda-Iraq Link U.S. Cited Is Tied to Coercion Claim - New York Times By DOUGLAS JEHL Published: December 9, 2005 WASHINGTON, Dec. 8 - The Bush administration based a crucial prewar assertion about ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda on detailed statements made by a prisoner while in Egyptian custody who later said he had fabricated them to escape harsh treatment, according to current and former government officials"

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